Jake and Phil are joined by the great poet Tom Sleigh to discuss his essay "To Be Incarnational," on the World War I poetry of David Jones, as well as Tom's poem "In Which a Spider Weaves a Web on My Computer Screen"
The Manifesto: Tom Sleigh, To Be Incarnational https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/articles/70066/to-be-incarnational
The Art: Tom Sleigh, "In Which a Spider Weaves a Web on My Computer Screen" https://vimeo.com/669317283