60 Songs That Explain the '90s Smashing Pumpkins—“Mayonaise”
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Dec 10, 2020 
Bill Simmons, a prominent podcast host, joins to dive into the Smashing Pumpkins' haunting ballad "Mayonnaise." They discuss Billy Corgan's complex persona and how his introspective lyrics resonate with feelings of isolation. The conversation also touches on the band's tension between indie credibility and mainstream success during the '90s. Plus, they explore the rivalry with Nirvana and the evolving legacy of the Pumpkins. Journey through nostalgic memories and the art of album sequencing alongside these iconic sounds!
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Corgan's Joyful Sadness
- Billy Corgan, known for his grouchiness, expressed his sadness and rage through his music.
- This resonated with Rob Harvilla, who found joy and understanding in Corgan's intense emotions.
Introduction to Mayonnaise
- Rob Harvilla's high school friend, Gene, introduced him to the song "Mayonnaise."
- This started Harvilla's obsession with the Smashing Pumpkins.
Nevermind's Impact
- Billy Corgan's ambitions were complicated by Nirvana's success.
- Nevermind's popularity made similar-sounding bands seem derivative, impacting Corgan's image.
