Louder with Crowder

They Are Lying Because They Are Losing: ICE Shooter, White People, & ... Bees?

Sep 25, 2025
Josh Firestine, a comedian and keen observer of societal trends, joins the discussion to dissect Candace Owens' bizarre theory linking bees to Charlie Kirk's death. The hosts provide a humorous critique of this and delve into Apple's postponement of 'The Savant,' analyzing its implications on narratives around domestic terrorism. They also unpack the recent Dallas ICE shooting, questioning media representations and the complexities of victimhood. Throughout, Firestine's comedic flair adds a lighthearted twist to serious topics.
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INSIGHT

Conspiracies Multiply Without Evidence

  • Broad conspiracies proliferate quickly after high-profile violence and often lack evidence.
  • Crowder warns jumping lanes without proof harms the search for truth.
ANECDOTE

Candace Owens' Bee Conspiracy Examined

  • Crowder and guests mock Candace Owens' bee/Mormon theory connecting Charlie Kirk's killing to a 'beehive' symbolism.
  • They read her texts and trace the flawed leap from school messages to Utah beehive symbolism.
INSIGHT

Beehive Symbolism Is Historical, Not Subversive

  • The Utah beehive symbol stems from Mormon cooperative pioneer history, not communism.
  • Crowder explains historical metaphors can be misread as conspiratorial signals.
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