John Vervaeke and Zachary Stein: Education and The Divine Double

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Intro music: Beautiful Machines, by Andrew Sweeny

John Vervaeke is a professor at the University of Toronto and the creator of the popular online YouTube Series ‘Awakening from The Meaning Crisis’, which is a rich feast of cognitive science, philosophy, religion, and the history of ideas.  What makes Vervaeke special in my opinion is the breadth of his work, but his courage descend the ivory tower and talk to people ‘on the street’—and to exemplify his ideas.  His hero is Socrates, and he embodies the living dialogue and courage that Socrates represents.    

Zak Stein is philosopher of education working at the interface of psychology, metaphysics, and politics. He has published two books, including Education in Time Between Worlds, along with dozens of articles. This writing was done as he worked co-founding a non-profit and think tank, as well as teaching graduate students at Harvard, and consulting with technology start-ups. Zak is a long time meditator, musician and caregiver, which has shaped him more than any professional engagements.  (Source: https://www.systems-souls-society.com)  

In our wide ranging conversation we discussed:  Legitimacy Crisis;Wisdom; famine; Intergenerational; transmission; Religion/Religio New Perennialism; Cosmo erotic humanism; Serious Play; Bleeding boundaries; Scientism and Religion; Temples in Space and Time; Perennials vs constructivists and beyond; The disappearance of the classroom; Science and scientism; Heidegger and the standing reserve; Dividuals instead of individuals; The Divine Double; The imaginal ship of death; The Lord of Host or Elohim