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The Russell Moore Show

Life, Leadership, and Lament: A Conversation with Mark Vroegop

Mar 26, 2025
Mark Vroegop, the newly appointed president of The Gospel Coalition and author of impactful works like "Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy," discusses navigating faith amid doubt and grief. He emphasizes the transformative power of belief and the crucial role of community in spiritual growth. Vroegop shares insights on making life decisions, the significance of lament in ministry, and how modern challenges shape church dynamics. Together, they explore the complexity of trust in God's goodness during uncertain times, bolstered by reflections on the Psalms.
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  • Mark Vroegop emphasizes that understanding God's goodness amid suffering may not be fully realized until the new heavens and earth.
  • The evolving role of church leaders requires resilience and authentic connections in response to societal shifts and distrust.

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The Complexity of Faith in Difficult Times

Navigating faith during times of suffering can be challenging, as many grapple with lingering pain and theological questions. The book of Lamentations reflects this struggle, where the question of God's love in the face of suffering arises. The discussion highlights how long-term pain makes it difficult to reconcile perceptions of God's goodness with personal experiences of hardship. Recognizing this tension allows individuals to engage deeply with their faith while seeking answers in the biblical narrative.

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