

Pill Pod 210 - New York Times LIES about "Fascism Experts" fleeing Trump
May 31, 2025
The podcast dives into the New York Times' claims about scholars fleeing Trump, revealing they’re actually settled in Canada for work. It humorously critiques the so-called 'fascism experts' and questions their legitimacy while dissecting the oversimplified notion that fascism and communism are interchangeable. The hosts challenge political narratives shaped by media sensationalism, urging deeper understanding of historical contexts. They also reflect on the complexities of American politics, raising alarm about rising reactionary ideologies and the need for political engagement.
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False Narrative of 'Fleeing Fascism'
- The claim that Yale professors are "fleeing fascism" by moving to the University of Toronto is misleading. - They had already been in Canada for almost a year, showing this is more performative than actual fleeing.
Horseshoe Theory Dominates Analysis
- The three academics labeled "fascism experts" are mostly focused on liberal centrist views that homogenize fascism and communism. - Their analysis tends toward horseshoe theory, equating diverse ideologies unfairly.
Expertise Uneven Among Professors
- Jason Stanley, one "expert," focuses on fascism's rhetoric and has written multiple books, so he holds genuine expertise. - However, the others have more tenuous claims tied mostly to political histories, not fascism per se.