The Familiar Stranger Podcast Practicing the Presence and Power of the Holy Spirit with Mark Sayers, Pete Greig, and Jess Gracewski
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Apr 1, 2025 
Mark Sayers, a leading voice at Red Church in Melbourne, Pete Greig, founder of the 24-7 Prayer Movement, and Jess Gracewski from Reality Church in San Francisco engage in a dynamic discussion on the Holy Spirit. They explore the shift from human authority to divine empowerment in faith communities and emphasize the joy in leadership through vulnerability. Personal anecdotes underscore everyday encounters with the Spirit, while the conversation highlights the urgent need for creativity and authentic connection in today’s fast-paced world.
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Energy Transition in the Church
The church is experiencing a crisis due to reliance on human power, similar to the world's need for new energy sources. This is an invitation to embrace the empowerment of the Holy Spirit.
Toxic Leadership and Followership
Both toxic leaders and followers can create a disconnection from the Holy Spirit. The church must listen to the Spirit to avoid these pitfalls.
Joy in the Spirit
True joy comes from the Holy Spirit, not from earthly circumstances. The church must embrace this joy to combat despair.
