"The messy inspired action will get you there in a lightning speed more than all these other things. And a lot of people are like, 'Well, first I have to get certified, then I have to learn to build a list.' That's one story. You could believe that. Or you could not believe that, because it's never been my case. I'm so glad I started a podcast before I had a list. I'm so glad I started a podcast before I had Instagram. I'm so glad I recorded the podcast before I really knew what the podcast was. You're building the engine while you're flying the plane."
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The Cathy Heller Podcast with Cathy Heller