Carl Hulse on What We Learned From the Impeachment Trial & How to Cover Congress and not Lose Your Mind

Carl Hulse is chief Washington correspondent for the New York Times and has been writing about Congress for the Times for three decades. He knows the US Capitol better than almost anyone. He's also the author of "Confirmation Bias: Inside Washington's War Over the Supreme Court, from Scalia's Death to Justice Kavanaugh."

Carl interviewed Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Thursday, and of course we talked about that. But we also discussed what it was like to cover impeachment from start to finish, and what it's like to work on Capitol Hill without losing touch with the outside world. We discussed Twitter, and I told Carl how having a tweet go viral can be weirdly like being inside a pentecostal church service.

We also talked about why House Speaker Nancy Pelosi went from buttoned down last September to tearing up a text of the president's speech at the State of the Union, and what that means. And I asked Carl to reflect on what kind of president Bernie Sanders would be.

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