In this engaging discussion, Robert Wright, a renowned author on evolution and society, teams up with Andrew Day, a scholar at the crossroads of psychology and philosophy. They dive into the intriguing concept of 'coconut conservatism,' revealing how traditional values mingle with modern social justice themes and Eastern philosophies. The pair also tackle the shifting political landscape, especially regarding Kamala Harris's candidacy and its foreign policy implications, scrutinizing the nuances of legitimacy and donor influence in democracy.