Lyz’s own divorce lawyer Allison Werner Smith stops by to walk through the long road of a divorce. She explains how “the breakdown of the marriage relationship” can become a firmer foundation for a life.

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* In the show, I incorrectly cite this statistic about men and marriage and labor. In the podcast, I say men add eight hours of labor a week to their wives’ lives. It’s seven. My apologies to men.

* I also cite the statistic: 70 percent of breakups and divorces are initiated by women.

* Transcripts for the show are automatically generated by AI and linked in the drop-down box above.

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