The Bulwark Podcast Bill Kristol and Terry Moran: True American Spirit
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Jun 16, 2025 
Bill Kristol, Editor-at-large of The Bulwark, and Terry Moran, former ABC News correspondent, engage in a gripping discussion about the current political landscape. They address the disparity in public protests versus military parades, highlighting the weariness of veterans over politicization. They also decry the militarization of urban areas for immigration enforcement and unpack the fallout from a recent political assassination. Moran shares insights from his ABC firing and critiques Trump’s tactics, emphasizing the real dangers of misinformation in today’s politics.
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No Kings Protest's Patriotic Impact
- The No Kings protests showed a powerful and patriotic spirit against Trump that exceeded expectations.
- They contrasted sharply with the dismal military birthday parade, demonstrating public support's influence on institutions.
Military Parade Was Sad and Pathetic
- Trump's military parade was a fiasco showing little enthusiasm among troops involved.
- It contrasted starkly with the energy of public protests, leaving observers disappointed and concerned.
Military Pushback Against Politicization
- The military is showing resistance to Trump's politicization efforts despite pressure.
- This pushback offers a minor silver lining amid authoritarian concerns.