The Trump administration has announced a 28-point plan to end the war in Ukraine that involves ceding territory, giving up on joining NATO and reducing its military—in essence an extremely, even suspiciously, friendly deal for Russia and Russian demands.

How does Ukraine play this without losing a powerful ally or the war?

Guest: Fred Kaplan, Slate’s War Stories correspondent.

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