Michael Hobbes, a journalist and podcast host known for debunking societal trends, joins to discuss the fears surrounding youth and technology. They trace historical moral panics, from jukeboxes to smartphones, and examine the myth that screentime is solely harmful. Hobbes highlights the nuances of technology's impact on mental health, advocating for informed discussions rather than simplistic solutions. With a dash of humor, they reflect on generational anxieties and the evolving dynamics of relationships in the digital age.
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Connection Between Technology and Mental Health
The rise of smartphones and social media correlates with an increase in mental health issues among teens. However, the relationship is complex, and it's not clear if technology is the cause.
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Historical Moral Panics
Michael Hobbes shares that moral panics about youth and technology have existed for nearly 100 years. Each new technology, from jukeboxes to smartphones, has prompted similar fears about its impact on children.
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Implement Phone-Free Policies in Schools
Consider adopting phone-free policies in schools to help students focus. Schools can implement locker systems where students store their phones during the day.
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In 'The Anxious Generation', Jonathan Haidt examines the sudden decline in the mental health of adolescents starting in the early 2010s. He attributes this decline to the shift from a 'play-based childhood' to a 'phone-based childhood', highlighting mechanisms such as sleep deprivation, attention fragmentation, addiction, loneliness, social contagion, and perfectionism that interfere with children’s social and neurological development. Haidt proposes four simple rules to address this issue: no smartphones before high school, no social media before age 16, phone-free schools, and more opportunities for independence, free play, and responsibility. The book offers a clear call to action for parents, teachers, schools, tech companies, and governments to restore a more humane childhood and end the epidemic of mental illness among youth.
The Coddling of the American Mind
Jonathan Haidt
Greg Lukianoff
The book explores how the ideas 'what doesn’t kill you makes you weaker,' 'always trust your feelings,' and 'life is a battle between good people and evil people' have become embedded in American culture. These 'Great Untruths' contradict basic psychological principles and ancient wisdom, leading to a culture of safetyism that interferes with young people’s social, emotional, and intellectual development. The authors investigate various social trends, including fearful parenting, the decline of unsupervised play, and the impact of social media, as well as changes on college campuses and the broader context of political polarization in America.
Since the advent of smartphones, a simmering and increasingly boiling panic has been about whether too much “screentime” is ruining the nation’s youth. Michael Hobbes joins us to help trace past moral panics surrounding kids, from such terrifying inventions as the jukebox, to television (okay maybe kinda bad), and texting, up to where we are now: the “Great Rewiring.” That’s the theory as younger generations are exposed to technology at earlier and earlier ages, it fundamentally changes how they approach the world, and other people. But is it really rotting their brains?
Our guest Michael Hobbes is a journalist and podcast host. You can find his work on his Substack “Confirm My Choices,” or his podcasts “If Books Could Kill” and “Maintenance Phase.”
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