The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell Lawrence: Trump was flying with Epstein around the time FBI got its first tip about Epstein
Dec 24, 2025
Robert Garcia, a U.S. Representative and member of the House Oversight Committee, pushes for transparency regarding the DOJ's handling of the Epstein files. David Enrich, a New York Times investigative reporter, reveals alarming details about Trump’s connections to Epstein, including multiple flights together. Adam Smith, another U.S. Representative, critiques military operations amidst concerns of oversight and legality. The discussion culminates in a call for accountability and deeper investigations into both Epstein’s network and recent military actions.
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Silence Speaks About Possible Concealment
- Lawrence O'Donnell notes that public figures named in Epstein files who insist on transparency show innocence.
- He contrasts Bill Clinton's demand for full release with others' silence to suggest concealment.
Flight Records Undermine Trump Denials
- New DOJ emails show Trump flew on Epstein's plane far more often than he admitted between 1993–1996.
- At least four of those flights included Ghislaine Maxwell among passengers, undermining Trump's denials.
DOJ Credibility Questioned Over File Release
- O'Donnell argues the Trump Justice Department fought releasing Epstein files to protect Trump and allies.
- He says DOJ leadership lacks credibility to adjudicate authenticity of released documents.