WHAT IF WE GET IT RIGHT? What now for climate law? ⚖️ Abigail Dillen has answers.
Oct 17, 2025
Abigail Dillen, president of Earthjustice and a seasoned environmental lawyer, discusses the urgent state of climate law. She highlights the threats posed by current legal erosions and emphasizes the role of the courts in defending environmental justice. Abigail urges listeners to tackle the dangerous trends of deregulation and advocates for a new legal framework through Project Phoenix. With a focus on collaborative litigation and community support, she inspires action to rethink and strengthen environmental laws for a sustainable future.
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Old Laws Can Still Work
- Abigail Dillen says long-standing environmental laws are capacious enough to meet new challenges if enforced properly.
- She warns strong rule-of-law and fair courts are prerequisites and those assumptions are now under strain.
Lawlessness As Strategy
- Dillen argues the current administration treats lawlessness as a tactic, openly flouting legal limits.
- She warns this display of power undermines due process and democratic norms with real human costs.
Use Lawsuits To Fight Lawlessness
- Dillen urges leaning into the courts and filing more lawsuits to defend rule of law during attacks.
- She emphasizes supporting courageous judges and maximizing legal avenues rather than abandoning them.
