The final installment of Yowei's quest to solve the mystery of proxy converations. 

In this episode, Yowei talks to a ritual expert and tries explaining what she's learned about proxy conversations to her mom. 

From the episode:

• Michael Norton is a behavior scientist, Harvard Business School professor, and the author of The Ritual Effect: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Ritual-Effect/Michael-Norton/9781982153021
• Yowei's unhinged grieving ritual for her layoff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHHQK9ooNqc 

Episode credits:

• Produced by Yowei Shaw and Kim Nederveen Pieterse
• Mixed by Kyle Pulley

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