Megan Gorman, author of All The Presidents’ Money, joins the pod to talk about how Washington screwed up his estate planning, the evil of Thomas Jefferson, why Hoover and Harding were actually great with money and all kinds of White House shenanigans. Plus, what did Michelle Obama hate about paying for her own food and what Trump’s real estate investments indicate about his presidencies.

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Every President’s Personal Finances with Megan Gorman