Conversations with Consequences Ep. 336 Bishop Paprocki on Senator Dick Durbin's Lifetime Achievement Award & Gia Chacon on the Persecuted Church
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Sep 25, 2025 Bishop Thomas John Paprocki, the Bishop of Springfield, discusses the controversy surrounding Senator Dick Durbin receiving a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Archdiocese of Chicago, arguing it undermines pro-life values. Gia Chacon, founder of March for the Martyrs, highlights alarming AI threats to religious freedom and how surveillance is being used to persecute Christians globally. Msgr. Roger Landry reflects on the legacies of St. Vincent de Paul and St. Therese, sharing insights on compassion and faith resilience amid adversity.
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Awards Signal Broader Endorsement
- Honoring a public figure implies endorsement of their whole record rather than a single action.
- Bishop Thomas Paprocki argues the Archdiocese should not award Senator Durbin because of his long pro-abortion record.
Speak When Policy Is Violated
- Speak up when a fellow bishop or diocese acts against established Church policy.
- Silence can falsely normalize actions that contradict Church teachings, so challenge them publicly if necessary.
Consistent Ethic Doesn't Excuse Abortion
- The term 'consistent ethic of life' cannot be used to downplay abortion's importance.
- Paprocki cites Cardinal Bernardin to show abortion cannot be treated as a minor issue within a pro-life framework.
