Cain, Abel, and What Are We Here For? With Jamie Wheal

Can humanity reinvent itself amidst growing disconnection? Jamie Wheal, author of "Recapture the Rapture" and Executive Director of the Flow Genome Project, joins us to reveal how ancient social technologies and modern neuroscience can address our civilization’s most pressing issues.

You will soon find out why the biblical brothers Cain and Abel (present in many religions) are in this podcast's title. This episode runs longer than usual, but Jamie's insights were so profound and evolutionary that we couldn't bear to cut any part of the interview or split it into two parts.

Join us as Jamie Wheal takes us on a journey through the story and future of our civilization, viewed through the lens of connection.

Episode Breakdown:

[2:01] - Jamie explains why the theme Radical Connection was chosen for this 8th season of the Harvest Summit in Kaplankaya. Why do we feel so disconnected today?

[6:05] - Jamie cites the ancient social technologies we left behind. But how do we fight against the inevitable frictions emerging from the communities?

[10:00] - Are demagogues and populists responsible for us feeling disconnected, along with social networks?

[15:00] - Jamie talks about migration and humans being always on the move.

[20:14] - We are going back to a multipolar world. What are the 3 main forces driving disconnection: 1. Tribalism 2. Colonialism 3. Capitalism.

[28:00] - We are used to thinking that technology will solve our resource problems.

[33:00] - How can we deal with these situations where if we want to raise the standard of living of Americans, we would need the resources of 3 to 4 planets Earth. Reduction is politically untenable.

[35:00] - We are in a case of obligate adaptation: how to recalibrate our carbon consumption to standards of living that meet our needs. How do we become healthier and more connected?

[43:00] - I'm trying to get hope from maybe the next generations. Jamie doesn't want to put all the effort into the kids.

[45:00] - What about fixing people's consciousness? Yes, if it doesn't make us just self-indulgent.

[54:42] - Jamie is writing a book: if an anthropologist from space came down to Earth and checked what was happening, interviewing the wisest ones, what is going on? What are the drivers of evolution?

[57:49] - "Evolution (life on this Earth) is nothing more and less than an amoral and indifferent novelty engine. Its purpose is to create and generate options and possibilities. 90% crashes, 10% persist. That's how you get new and different." Out of these different things comes complexity. Some complex things are not beautiful, like cancer, but some things are good, true, and beautiful. Let's protect them. But it needs energy."

[1:00:00] - The story of human civilization has been nothing more than a hunt for ever hotter fire to heat ever more interesting star stuff.

[1:08:00] - What are the tools we have in our hands? We have seasons and contrasts, spinning, the moon... They are Earthshots giving us hope.

Next episode will be with Nic Warner, a transformational coach, about how boys can become men. He will share his moving story with full transparency.

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Credits:

• Sound editing by: @lesbellesfrequences
• Technicians in Kaplankaya: Joel Moriasi, Hanan Yasir, and team
• Music by: Chambord
• Artwork by: Davide d'Antonio

Harvest Series is produced in partnership with Athena Advisers and Capital Partners

Harvest Series Founders: Burak Öymen and Roman Carel