Original Air Date: April 18, 2023

Step 1: Cry! Step 2: Get Out of Debt! Welcome back to another "boring" episode with our favorite guest Stephanie Lee of Frequently Taxed Questions where we discuss debt and all the ways it's affected Gabe's life, even now. Should you consolidate? How do you start paying off massive debt? What are tradelines? What happens to you if you just don't pay? Stephanie gives gentle and really helpful advice to Gabe and everyone else going through big life changes with huge financial implications. It's not really a boring episode. It's just very honest and useful!

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Produced by Melisa D. Monts

Edited by Diane Kang

Post-Production Sound by Coco Llorens