Resilience Strategist Michael Haupt shares a transformative vision for a collaborative future, emphasizing sustainable practices over greenwashing. Topics include: transformative visions, systemic change, legal personhood for natural entities, coordination for positive change, shifting to stewardship models, and shaping a positive future through storytelling and collaboration.
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Career Shift
Michael Haupt's career began in corporate technology, launching mobile telephony in South Africa before the 1994 elections.
After working globally, he had a pivotal vision in Thailand, leading him to focus on systemic change.
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Forgotten Visions
Visions of potential futures are common but often forgotten due to the demands of daily life.
These visions can offer valuable guidance if prioritized and integrated into our worldviews.
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Civilizational Cycles
Civilizations historically follow cyclical patterns of rise and fall, lasting 200-300 years.
These cycles are driven by class-based interstructures that eventually collapse under the weight of the elite.
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We know by now that the old system is crumbling, that the old paradigms are no longer fit for purpose and we need to take part in the birth of something new: this is what this podcast is for. But what are the tools and how can we begin actually to build something relevant and useful within the strictures of a system that is still trying to cling onto legitimacy and power?
Michael Haupt was a key figure in the widespread introduction of mobile telephones to South Africa ahead of the first all-race elections in 1994. He was head-hunted soon after and the next decade saw him working around the globe in 16 cities on 6 continents. He was in Thailand, taking a year out when he had a vision - an actual not-expected, not-planned, not-drug-or-meditation-mediated set of visions - that showed him how the world could look and feel like if we manage to craft a route through to what he calls the Transition Phase of our evolution.
This moment was pivotal in his life. Now he's a 'Resilience Strategist' bridging between those businesses that are switched on enough to know that corporate greenwashing is no longer useful, and agile enough to find what is. He's building mycelial links to others who are working in this area and he's thinking deeply - so deeply - about where we could go and the actual logistics of how we might get there. I've been holding a lot of conversations on the back of launching Any Human Power about how we could build a future that is fit for purpose, where the human and More-Than-Human worlds flourish on a thriving planet. Thanks to Audrey Tang and Glen Weyl, I can see some of the routes through to political and technological change. Thanks to the Gaia Foundation, the Sustainable Food Trust, the million and one permaculture organisations around the world, I can see a way to mending our totally broken food and farming system. I can see ways to shift transport and power generation and city design. What I have lacked, until now, is the ideas that might bring the great behemoth that is the corporate world on board in a way that's useful. And this is what Michael is doing. As ever, this was a wide, deep conversation and it pushed the edge of my thinking, but it brought me to a place where I can more clearly see a few more steps forward. I hope it does the same for you.
00:00 Introduction: Reconnecting with Nature 01:19 Welcome to the Podcast 01:40 Michael's Journey to Resilience Strategy 02:14 Load Shedding in South Africa 03:49 Understanding Resilience Strategy 04:52 Michael's Life Journey and Worldview 07:40 The Vision on the Beach 12:15 Potential Futures and Human Coordination 15:22 Cycles of Civilisations 18:12 Class-Based vs. Values-Based Societies 20:19 Emerging Consciousness and Systemic Change 22:01 The Role of Currency and Mutual Credit 27:25 Coordinating for Systemic Change 28:55 South African Elections and Corporate Responsibility 32:10 Legal Personhood for Natural Entities 35:12 The Mycelial Network and Future Coordination 38:28 Encouraging Systemic Change 39:13 Resilience Strategies and City Exclusion 40:12 Rural Experiments and Human Purpose 41:12 Challenges of Implementation 45:27 Local Currencies and Community Commitment 50:50 Ownership vs. Stewardship 53:22 Rediscovering Connectedness 57:26 Emerging Incentive Mechanisms 01:09:35 Forking Governance and Parallel Systems 01:16:25 The Power of Narrative