If you've ever felt like you're failing because your house (or your parenting) feels messy, this conversation will feel like a deep exhale. I sat down with Justin Whitmel Earley — author of Habits of the Household, The Common Rule, Made for People, and now The Big Mess — to talk about why the real beauty in parenting often shows up in the chaos. We cover how birth order affects family dynamics, why things in parenthood are messier (and better) than we imagined, and how to make space for our kids (and ourselves) to be exactly who God made us to be—clumsy moments and all. If you're craving encouragement to loosen your grip and love your people well, this one's for you.

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Made For People: https://rstyle.me/+DwLoyeCWNODk3YQC8Gsk4g

The Common Rule: https://rstyle.me/+Snp1ih8_H1QaL0DoBkKdHQ

Habits of the Household: https://rstyle.me/+FsSuOWL_9BI-8pfteQ9QoQ

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