Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Inside COP: Brazil's Climate Leadership - the COP30 host takes centre stage

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Nov 11, 2025
Renata Piazzon, Director General of the Arapyaú Institute, is dedicated to linking climate and social solutions in Brazil. She discusses the Forest People Connection project and how storytelling can drive climate prosperity. Marina Silva, Brazil's Minister of the Environment, emphasizes the Ethical Global Stocktake's focus on sustainability as a way of being and the urgent need for a fair transition away from fossil fuels. Both highlight Brazil's role in showcasing innovative climate solutions at COP30, pushing for a narrative of regeneration over sacrifice.
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Call Of Belém As Strategic Diplomacy

  • The Call of Belém functions like a political 'cover decision' to bundle many interests without legal binding force.
  • This tactic gives Brazil leverage to shape outcomes while preserving diplomatic consensus.
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Consensus-Based Political Wins

  • Covered decisions require consensus and must give each party at least one political win without crossing red lines.
  • Crafting such documents is both science and art of multilateral diplomacy.
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Using Bold Language To Shift Norms

  • The Call of Belém includes bold asks (fossil fuel phase-down, oceans, IMO) that may push norms without legal force.
  • Including sensitive items creates political pressure even if clauses are later softened.
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