This week's guest is Phil Ranck. Ron and Phil talked about Lean Alaska, which Phil founded, as well as his work with the United States Army. An MP3 audio version of this episode is available for download here. In this episode you'll learn:  The quote Phil likes (4:05) Phil's background (6:11) A cool story about the military (10:08) The difference between corporate and military environments (14:27) Academics versus application (17:12) How else you can gain experience (19:52) The obstacles to getting started (24:21) Podcast Resources Right Click to Download this Podcast as an MP3 Phil on LinkedIn Lean Alaska Lean Alaska on Facebook Get All the Latest News from Gemba Academy Our newsletter is a great way to receive updates on new courses, blog posts, and more. Sign up here. What Do You Think? How do academics compare to application in a continuous improvement context?