Breaking free from people-pleasing and family patterns | Jerry Wise | #025 Mastering Change

Why do we keep falling into the same family roles – even as adults? 

This week we speak with systems therapist and family recovery coach Jerry Wise about how to break free from emotional enmeshment, codependency and the unspoken rules that keep us stuck. 

Drawing on decades of clinical and coaching experience, Jerry introduces the concept of self-differentiation – the process of becoming your own person while staying connected to others. He explains why physical distance doesn’t necessarily create emotional freedom, how to stop internalising guilt and shame, and why staying calm can ripple change through an entire relationship dynamic. 

We also explore: 

• How family patterns live on in us – even when we’re miles away 
• Why boundaries aren’t about pushing people out, but staying connected on your own terms 
• The surprising link between self-regulation and changing relationship dynamics 
• What it really takes to step out of old family roles and become yourself 

This episode offers clarity, compassion and practical tools for therapists helping patients to create healthier, more authentic connections – without losing themselves in the process. 

Moment of Care: This episode discusses sensitive episodes related to trauma, mental health and potential distressing experiences. If you feel triggered at any point, please take a moment to check in with yourself and seek support. 

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