

Reform's Zia Yusuf in conversation with Michael Gove
Sep 7, 2025
Zia Yusuf, Head of the department of government efficiency for Reform UK and former tech entrepreneur, chats with Michael Gove about a range of pressing issues. They explore Labour's governance record and Zia’s personal journey into politics. The conversation delves into controversial immigration policies and fiscal reforms aimed at enhancing public services. They also examine the transformative potential of AI in society and the UK's capacity to lead in this field, wrapping up with a fast-paced critique of current and past political leaders.
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Prepare Now With Expert Teams
- Zia Yusuf argues Reform must prepare now with experts from business, NHS and the military to be ready for government.
- He frames recruitment as a meritocratic, 'skin in the game' approach to deliver rapid, radical change.
Sovereignty Over Treaties
- Yusuf says the Prime Minister should be accountable to UK citizens above foreign regimes or international obligations.
- He implies willingness to withdraw from treaties that impede serving British interests.
From Immigrant Roots To Political Return
- Yusuf tells his immigrant family story: parents from Sri Lanka, NHS careers and scholarship opportunity shaped his patriotism.
- He sold his company, planned to emigrate, but returned to politics because Nigel Farage inspired him as a 'founder' leader.