The New Yorker Radio Hour

Ian McEwan on Imagining the World After Disaster

Nov 28, 2025
Ian McEwan, the acclaimed British novelist known for works like Atonement, shares his thoughts on his latest novel, which envisions a world after disasters. He introduces the idea of 'nuanced optimism,' highlighting the resilience of humanity amid catastrophe. McEwan critiques modern fiction, lamenting the trend of self-focused narratives while advocating for the power of the realist novel to express complex human emotions. He also reflects on the importance of pleasure in writing and discusses his immersive research experiences, which deepen his storytelling.
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INSIGHT

Nuanced Optimism About Catastrophe

  • Ian McEwan calls his novel's position 'nuanced optimism' that humanity scrapes through catastrophes rather than perishing.
  • He imagines limited nuclear exchanges and climate collapse followed by a chance to address climate seriously.
ADVICE

Make Pleasure A Literary Aim

  • Never lose sight that literary fiction must also pursue pleasure alongside understanding.
  • Aim for boldness and declarative writing while keeping reader enjoyment central.
ANECDOTE

Stepping Out To Return Stronger

  • McEwan recounts writing dark short stories early and needing to step away after The Comfort of Strangers.
  • He took TV and film work to collaborate and recover creative energy before returning to novels.
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