Philosopher Agnes Callard and web editor Violet Lucca discuss the power and ethical implications of eros. They explore its depiction in history, the challenges of writing about sex, and the concepts of civility and loneliness. The podcast delves into personal struggles, the difficulty of objective storytelling, private worlds in relationships, and the emotional experiences of selfishness and loneliness.
The concept of arrows, or intense eroticism, can lead to a loss of civility and personal identity within a relationship, as well as the struggle to create a sense of 'we' and the influence of societal expectations.
The experience of arrows can result in profound loneliness and isolation, showcasing the challenge of finding shared understanding and creating a 'we' while grappling with the intense selfishness and predictability of behavior.
Deep dives
The Paradox of Arrows
Arrows, or the experience of interstitial eroticism, is a paradoxical and transformative period that engulfs individuals. It controls their thoughts, leaving them preoccupied with doubts about their relationship and personal insecurities. The desire for arrows to end becomes a dominant theme, fueling fantasies of escaping the intense emotional turmoil. In this state, civility is seen as the antithesis of arrows, representing a loss of self-control and a surrender of personal identity to the relationship. The struggle to create a sense of 'we' and the influence of societal expectations on arrows are explored. Additionally, the imbalance of power and the challenge of finding an ethical response to arrows are discussed through the lens of Plato's philosophy. While the experience of arrows is often portrayed as a horror story, this podcast delves into the topic with a more playful approach, offering insights into the pain, longing, and unyielding nature of arrows.
The Loneliness of Arrows
The experience of arrows often leaves individuals feeling deeply lonely, trapped in their own private world that others cannot penetrate. The intense selfishness and predictability of behavior while in the grip of arrows amplifies this loneliness. The inability to complete a thought or fully share one's inner life creates a profound sense of isolation. The author reflects on the role of private worlds in relationships and highlights the blurred boundary between erotic restlessness and philosophical contemplation. While philosophers may be naturally prone to eros, the author acknowledges the challenges of finding shared understanding and creating a 'we' within the realm of arrows.
The Challenge of Telling the Story of Arrows
The author grapples with the question of how to accurately and objectively tell the story of arrows. The dilemma lies in the subjectivity of personal experiences and the biases inherent in crafting such narratives. While efforts are made to provide a fair and honest account, nuances are inevitably lost, and the perspectives of both parties involved often remain elusive. The discussion explores the idea of incorporating multiple viewpoints, with a focus on how certain relationships defy storytelling due to the failure to achieve a shared understanding. The complexity and inherent loneliness of arrows are further emphasized, leaving the author pondering the possibility of an objective version of this deeply personal experience.
The Struggle for Control and Societal Expectations
The podcast delves into the struggle for control that individuals experience during arrows, highlighting the desire to be liked and the tendency to seek validation from the other person. The discussion touches on the cultural shifts in romantic relationships and the pressure to conform to societal ideals of equality and partnership. The podcast also explores the humorous and ironic aspects of arrows, with the author's essay presenting a more playful approach to this universally challenging experience. The complexities of navigating arrows and the elusive quest for closure are illuminated, offering insights into the often torturous journey faced by those caught in its grip.
Of all the manifestations of love described in philosophy, eros—the sensual, the passionate—is often the most exalted. But in its power to override rational and ethical impulses, eros can become monstrous, throwing you into a cycle of misery in which you’re impervious to common sense. Philosopher Agnes Callard, author of Aspiration, joins web editor Violet Lucca for a cathartic conversation about her own encounters with eros and the feasibility of ethical erotic relationships. Callard and Lucca trace depictions of eros through history, from Plato to modern novels, and reevaluate the concepts of civility and loneliness. They also explore the possibilities and strictures of writing about eros: the space it creates for reflection, the illusory fulfillment of depictions of sex, and whether it’s ever possible to treat the topic with anything approaching objectivity.