When George W. Bush created the PEPFAR program in 2003, it was celebrated by evangelical leaders and has saved more than 26 million lives in Africa from HIV/AIDS. So why weren’t evangelicals outraged when Donald Trump killed PEPFAR, which has already resulted in over 75,000 deaths since January? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn unpack the arguments for and against PEPFAR, and how evangelical support for “small government” only applies to some programs. Then, Katilyn talks to Sharon Hodde Miller about what the self-esteem movement gets wrong about insecurity, and how we can recover the Christian virtue of service and self-forgetfulness. Also this week, rotten butter ants invade Europe.

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0:00 - Show Starts

3:22 - Theme Song

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5:58 - Stinky Ants in Europe!

11:41 - PEPFAR and Evangelicals

21:00 - Spiritual Formation of Small Government Politics

25:35 - Addressing Anti-PEPFAR arguments

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50:12 - Interview

55:54 - Insecurity and Ministry

1:08:20 - The Emptiness of Self-Esteem

1:14:30 - Transactional Relationships

1:25:14 - End Credits

Links from News Segment:

Super Ants Invade!

https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/super-ants-germany-8wp8n83zm

Why Evangelicals Turned Their Back on PEPFAR:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/07/pepfar-evangelical/683418/

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