Nick Spencer speaks to former Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams.

People today often like to be considered “spiritual but not religious”. But what could that actually mean?

All too often, the spiritual is juxtaposed against the material. But in reality, the two are inseparably linked.

In this episode of Reading our Times, Nick Spencer talks to Rowan Williams about his latest book Looking East in Winter, in a conversation that covers the spiritual life, the potential for politics, and the need for Christian humanism today.