
Big Ideas Judge Navi Pillay on the fight for human rights, justice and accountability
Dec 1, 2025
Navi Pillay, the first female high court judge in South Africa and a former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, shares her incredible journey from apartheid to international law. She discusses landmark rulings that established sexual violence as war crimes during the Rwanda tribunal. Chris Sidoti, an international human rights lawyer, highlights the fragility of international law and the necessity of accountability for lasting peace. Together, they explore the need for domestic accountability in Australia and the rights of women and children in conflict zones.
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From Segregation To First Non-White Woman Lawyer
- Navi Pillay described growing up under apartheid and how her community financed her university education.
- She opened her own law practice in 1967 after being refused jobs by white firms, becoming the first non-white woman lawyer in Natal province.
Courtroom Defiance Taught Heroism
- Pillay recounted defending a farmer who used court as a platform for political defiance rather than avoiding punishment.
- The client chose to speak in court as part of the ANC's defiance campaign and was punished, teaching Pillay about heroic resistance.
Changing Genocide Law Through Survivors' Voices
- On the ICTR bench, Pillay helped establish rape and sexual violence as acts of genocide based on survivors' testimony.
- She recalled being the only woman judge and later being accused of bias by defense counsel on appeal.



