The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

442. BILL C-63 - Everything You Need to Know | Bruce Pardy & Konstantin Kisin

Apr 22, 2024

Bruce Pardy, a law professor and executive director at Rights Probe, and Konstantin Kisin, a satirist and co-host of TRIGGERnometry, dive deep into Canada's Bill C-63. They discuss its implications for free speech, drawing parallels to past legislation and warning of a significant shift in governmental power. The guests critique the erosion of individual rights in favor of bureaucratic control, highlighting the dangers of hate speech laws and the ideological battle between safety and freedom. Their conversation emphasizes the urgent need for vigilance in protecting civil liberties.

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Konstantin Kisin

Bruce Pardy

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Bill C63 raises concerns about free speech restrictions and government overreach.

The bill distorts definitions of hate speech and discrimination, fueling societal divisions.

Bill C63 introduces dystopian pre-crime measures that infringe on individual liberties.

Human rights under Bill C63 shift towards enforcing personal decisions and eroding autonomy.

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The Impact of Bill C63 on Free Speech and Individual Rights

Bill C63, a new bill in Canada looming on the horizon, has stirred controversy due to its potential infringement on free speech. The bill extends into uncharted territories, with implications that could significantly curtail individual rights. By encompassing three distinct elements—administrative, criminal, and human rights—the bill sets a dangerous precedent by intertwining hate speech restrictions with a far-reaching administrative state. This intertwining leads to a slippery slope scenario where anonymous denunciations can weaponize vengeance, hinder due process, and exponentially expand the power of the state over individual freedoms.

Navigating Responsibility and Obligation

00:59

Balancing Freedom and Safety in Public Discourse

01:35

Power without Accountability

01:42

The Impact of Covering Hate Speech

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Intro

3min

Legislative Overreach and Free Speech in Canada

17min

The Ideological Battle of Free Speech and Safety

4min

Shifts in Legal Equality: From Equal Treatment to Equivalent Outcomes

5min

Navigating the Speech Dilemma

21min

The Implications of Hate Speech Laws

3min

Analyzing Bill C-63: Impacts on Rights and Speech

29min

Freedom, Responsibility, and Society

25min

The Shift from Self-Regulation to Legislative Control in Society

3min

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with Canadian lawyer Bruce Pardy and podcaster Konstantin Kisin. They discuss Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s Bill C-63 (aka The Online Harms Act), what powers it gives to the government, what rights it strips from citizens, and why even Americans should be concerned.

Bruce Pardy is executive director of Rights Probe, a law and liberty thinktank, and professor of law at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. He is a lawyer, academic, columnist, and outspoken critic of the illiberal managerial state, fighting at the front lines of the culture war inside the law. Bruce writes for the National Post, Epoch Times, and the Brownstone Institute, among others, and serves as senior fellow at the Fraser Institute, the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, and the Frontier Centre for Public Policy. He has taught at law schools in Canada, the United States and New Zealand, practiced civil litigation in Toronto, and served as adjudicator and mediator on the Ontario Environmental Tribunal. The legal ground, Bruce has written, is shifting beneath our feet. The individual is losing to the collective. An ever-expanding bureaucracy regulates life from cradle to grave, including private behavior and speech, in the name of common good. The law has become discretionary, arbitrary, and unequal. The end of Western liberal civilization, as we have known it, is conceivable.

Konstantin Kisin is a Russian-British satirist, social commentator, and co-host of the TRIGGERnometry Youtube show. He is also the author of “An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West,” a Sunday Times bestseller. He has written for several publications, including Quillette, The Spectator, The Daily Telegraph, and Standpoint, on issues relating to tech censorship, woke culture, comedy, and other topics, but he currently publishes articles on his popular Substack. Kisin made headlines in 2018 when he refused to sign a "safe space contract" to perform comedy at a British college and again in 2023 when he participated in an Oxford Union debate on the motion of "This House Believes Woke Culture Has Gone Too Far." His speech at the debate received viral attention and has been seen by over 100 million people around the world.

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