The Lila Rose Show

E265: Debating Same-Sex Marriage w/ Perez Hilton and Carrie Prejean Boller | Lila Rose Show

Nov 11, 2025
In this engaging dialogue, controversial blogger Perez Hilton and former Miss California Carrie Prejean Boller revisit their infamous 2009 Miss USA confrontation. They discuss the fallout from Carrie's response about same-sex marriage and explore the complexities of love, family, and the role of public policy in these issues. With differing views on transgender care for minors and the ethics of IVF, the conversation navigates moral landscapes while revealing a surprising journey towards understanding and respect between two unlikely allies.
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ANECDOTE

Miss USA Moment That Changed Lives

  • Carrie recounts being called into the top five and facing a controversial same-sex marriage question onstage.
  • She says she answered truthfully as a Christian and later lost the crown and life changed dramatically.
INSIGHT

Public Cruelty Can Become a Catalyst

  • Perez reflects that he was intentionally cruel responding to Carrie's answer and now apologizes.
  • He frames his change as learning to be less attention-seeking and more compassionate over time.
ANECDOTE

Reaching Out Turned Bitterness Into Forgiveness

  • Carrie describes reaching out to Perez during COVID while still bitter, then forgiving him publicly on the show.
  • She emphasizes wanting Americans to unite despite media narratives that push division.
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