In 2013 Pam DuPuis was the first person I had ever heard say they had flown the UFO. I now have accounts from 50 people making the same claim with the same descriptions, including the main claim that consciousness is what moves the craft around.

This is the only interview Pam every did. It was done for the Winnipeg UFO Group. In it she talks about flying the craft, how she was trained on a ship to develop many paranormal talents. She also talks about her family military background and flying to the crystal city in space.

Grant Cameron Books on portals, UFO cover-ups, and UFOs: https://itsallconnected.weebly.com/books.html?fbclid=IwAR0BaXQAUchl_3Whbfd29ss3B3fo3yir-kqj5skvMIc9IwZNoWWTpK13tvM

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