And Rising Co-Founder Jonathan Trimble is the latest guest on untalented by UNKNOWN ... Jonathan earned his stripes at VMLY&R, adam&eveDDB and Fallon London before finding his own business.

We discuss Jonathan's journey, the problem with growing too fast and taking on too many clients, who the winners and losers are in the future of the creative industries, why there is a talent shortage, the realities of being fired by a client and the best way to lead creative teams to create incredible work.

Jonathan Trimble: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trimblejonathan/

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