The Brian Lehrer Show Two New York Gas Pipelines Move Toward Approval
Aug 26, 2025
Liz Krueger, a New York State Senator and Finance Committee chair, fiercely opposes gas pipeline projects due to environmental concerns. Rich Schrader, NRDC's Government Affairs Director, advocates for clean energy and warns of the risks these pipelines pose to local waterways and state climate goals. They discuss the political maneuvering behind the pipeline proposals and the urgent need for renewable energy initiatives like the Empire Wind Project. The conversation highlights the delicate balance between energy needs and environmental sustainability in New York.
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Pipelines Resurface Amid Political Talks
- Two proposed gas pipelines (NESE and Constitution) have resurfaced after talks between President Trump and Governor Hochul.
- Opponents say they conflict with New York's climate goals and risk local waterways and harbor impacts.
Senator Warns Of Repeated Harms
- Senator Liz Krueger warns the pipelines pose the same threats that caused past rejections, including dozens of waterways at risk.
- She predicts higher ratepayer costs and calls any approval a repeat mistake.
Expect Litigation Over Any Approval
- Krueger says the governor can approve pipelines without legislative action but expects litigation if approvals violate the CLCPA.
- She urges opponents to prepare for legal challenges based on state climate law.