Ram Dass discusses the importance of detaching from perspectives and models of the universe. He warns against becoming addicted to a single perspective and emphasizes the need to trust our intuitive validity. The podcast also explores the concept of addiction in our culture and the limitations of the mind. Reflecting on personal experiences, the hosts discuss letting go of attachments and the process of becoming finished with different things in life. They also share insights on therapy, healing, and profound realizations.
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The state of no mind allows us to transcend attachments to perspectives and models, experiencing each moment as new.
Being stuck in fixed perspectives limits our understanding of ourselves and the world, urging us to move beyond them.
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The State of No Mind
The podcast explores the state of no mind, where one transcends attachments to models and definitions of the universe and the self. In this state, there is no fixed perspective or preconceived ideas, allowing every moment to be experienced as new. Ram Dass discusses the Buddhist concept of no mind, which goes beyond enlightenment or any specific state of being. He emphasizes the importance of being free from attachment, as it limits our capacity to truly know ourselves and the world.
The Habit of Perspective
Ram Dass delves into the habit of perspective, where individuals cling to their own fixed viewpoints and beliefs. He explains how people tend to reinforce their perspectives by collecting evidence and experiences that validate their beliefs. This habit of perspective applies to personal identity, judgments of others, and even broader concepts like politics and religion. Ram Dass highlights the limitation of being immersed in these perspectives and urges listeners to move beyond them to fully understand themselves and the world.
The Traps of Method and Addiction
Ram Dass warns about the dangers of becoming addicted to certain methods or practices in one's spiritual journey. He shares personal experiences, such as encountering individuals who were addicted to their roles as psychologists or seekers. Ram Dass emphasizes the need to transcend attachments to methods and models, as they can prevent true wisdom and understanding. He suggests that true progress comes from letting go of the need for constant seeking and instead surrendering to the present moment without clinging to fixed perspectives.
From Collecting Knowledge to Wisdom
Ram Dass reflects on the tendency of individuals to collect knowledge and experiences in their quest for enlightenment or understanding. He compares this to the act of collecting objects or accumulating possessions. Ram Dass emphasizes the difference between knowledge and wisdom, noting that wisdom is not about accumulating facts but about embodying a deeper understanding beyond intellectual comprehension. He shares examples of individuals who exhibit wisdom without being able to explain it, contrasting it with the addiction to knowledge acquisition.
Ram Dass explores how we can have perspectives and models about the universe without being attached to them, as long as we cultivate the state of no mind and trust our intuitive validity.
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This episode of Here and Now is taken from a Ram Dass talk at Colby College in April of 1970. In this talk:
Ram Dass explores how it’s healthy to have perspectives and models about the universe and how things are, but it’s crucial that we don’t become attached to or stuck in that perspective.
Telling stories of his time in far-out places like India, Los Angeles, and heroin treatment centers, Ram Dass shares how it’s all perspective. Having a perspective is harmonious with the Tao, with the way of things, but we can’t get addicted to it and have it become our “reality.” He talks about how things like school and television are designed to keep us stuck in our roles, models, and perspectives.
Ultimately, we can learn to trust our intuitive validity and cultivate the Buddhist state of no mind, where we have finished with our models. We can know the difference between being wise and being knowledgeable.
“As long as you are attached to any model of the universe, to any level of definition of who you are or how it works, you are closed off from the rest of it. And the state of no mind, the Buddhist state of no mind, is where you have finished with models. You don’t even be enlightened, you don’t be anything, there’s just no mind.” – Ram Dass
About Ram Dass:
Ram Dass’ spirit has been a guiding light for generations, carrying along millions on the journey. Ram Dass teaches that through the Bhakti practice of unconditional love, we can all connect with our true nature. Through these teachings, Ram Dass has shared a little piece of his guru, Maharaj-ji, with all who have listened to him.