The Social-Engineer Podcast

Ep. 260 - The SE ETC Series - Suffering Through a Romance Scam with Nadja El Fertasi

May 27, 2024

Join Chris as he discusses romance scams with Nadja El Fertasi, a cybersecurity expert. They share insights on emotional resilience, falling victim to scams, healing, and navigating online dating safely. The podcast emphasizes building emotional defenses, coping mechanisms, self-love, and fostering healthy relationships.

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Quick takeaways

Moving communication to other platforms than the dating app can indicate a scam.

Developing emotional resilience and setting boundaries are crucial in avoiding manipulation.

Deep dives

Preventing Romance Scams on Dating Apps

Moving from the dating app to another messaging platform like WhatsApp can be a red flag. Meeting in person for coffee early on can help determine if the person matches their online persona. Being clear on non-negotiables and intentions is crucial to avoid falling for scams. Seeking support from friends for a reality check can provide objective perspectives.

Introduction

5min

Guarding Against Romance Scams

7min

Navigating Emotional Turmoil and Healing After a Romance Scam

4min

Navigating Romance Scams and Emotional Recovery

12min

Navigating Online Dating Safely

15min

Embracing Emotional Intelligence and Cyber Resilience

4min

*Please note that this episode contains discussions regarding abuse that some may find disturbing.

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Join Chris as he discusses topics and news pertaining to the world of Social Engineering.

Today, Chris is joined by Nadja El Fertasi. Nadja is a leading figure in fostering emotional resilience within the digital age. Her comprehensive expertise spans crisis management, strategic stakeholder communication, and emotional intelligence, creating a unified approach to enhance the human side of digital advancements.

Having spent nearly two decades at NATO, including a significant role in the NATO Communications and Information Agency focusing on Digital Transformation & Cybersecurity, Nadja has been a pivotal figure in strategic engagement and communications. This role highlighted her commitment to navigating and leading through the complexities of cybersecurity and digital transformation. With over 15 years dedicated to cybersecurity at NATO, Nadja has emerged as a respected expert in her field. Her contribution to the cybersecurity community was acknowledged in "Hacking Gender Barriers: Europe’s Top Cyberwomen," by the Women4Cyber foundation, which recognized her as one of Europe's influential figures in cybersecurity.

Today, Nadja is the voice behind the EQ Elevator Podcast, where she assists businesses in cultivating leadership that's resilient and equipped for the digital age's challenges. Her work is dedicated to shaping a safer, more emotionally intelligent digital landscape, where individuals and organizations can thrive amidst technological disruptions. [May 27, 2024]

00:00 - Intro

00:19 - 2024 State of Vishing Report

01:01 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:11 - Nadja El Fertasi Intro

05:02 - The Importance of Sharing