*Please note that this episode contains discussions regarding abuse that some may find disturbing.
Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Join Chris as he discusses topics and news pertaining to the world of Social Engineering.
Today, Chris is joined by Nadja El Fertasi. Nadja is a leading figure in fostering emotional resilience within the digital age. Her comprehensive expertise spans crisis management, strategic stakeholder communication, and emotional intelligence, creating a unified approach to enhance the human side of digital advancements.
Having spent nearly two decades at NATO, including a significant role in the NATO Communications and Information Agency focusing on Digital Transformation & Cybersecurity, Nadja has been a pivotal figure in strategic engagement and communications. This role highlighted her commitment to navigating and leading through the complexities of cybersecurity and digital transformation. With over 15 years dedicated to cybersecurity at NATO, Nadja has emerged as a respected expert in her field. Her contribution to the cybersecurity community was acknowledged in "Hacking Gender Barriers: Europe’s Top Cyberwomen," by the Women4Cyber foundation, which recognized her as one of Europe's influential figures in cybersecurity.
Today, Nadja is the voice behind the EQ Elevator Podcast, where she assists businesses in cultivating leadership that's resilient and equipped for the digital age's challenges. Her work is dedicated to shaping a safer, more emotionally intelligent digital landscape, where individuals and organizations can thrive amidst technological disruptions. [May 27, 2024]
00:00 - Intro
00:19 - 2024 State of Vishing Report
01:01 - Intro Links
- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/
- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/
- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/
03:11 - Nadja El Fertasi Intro
05:02 - The Importance of Sharing
07:14 - Romance Scam: Nadja's Story
13:51 - The Other Side
15:59 - The Red Flags
19:13 - A Gift and a Curse
23:22 - Taking Responsibility
25:24 - Love, Not Romance
27:05 - Navigating the Apps
32:28 - Reality Check
37:27 - Being Human
39:39 - Learning From "No"
41:28 - Where to Report
42:25 - Wrap Up
43:58 - Find Nadja El Fertasi Online
- LinkedIn: in/nadja-elfertasi
- Instagram: @nadjafertasi
45:17 - Outro
- www.social-engineer.com
- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
Find us online
- Chris Hadnagy
- Twitter: @humanhacker
- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy
The Social-Engineer Podcast