[REPLAY] Ana Marshall – Preparing for the New Environment at Hewlett (Capital Allocators, EP. 288)
Jan 8, 2024
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Ana Marshall serves as the CIO for The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, managing a $13 billion portfolio. In this conversation, she dives into the challenges of inflation and private equity dynamics. Ana discusses the complexities of investing in China and navigating emerging markets. She shares insights on evolving ESG strategies and the importance of adaptive investment approaches. Finally, she reflects on her vision for the next five years, emphasizing the need for diverse perspectives and proactive risk management to stay ahead in a shifting landscape.
Ana Marshall emphasizes the need to reassess investment strategies to adapt to a new era of normalized economy with inflation and higher interest rates, focusing on cash flow and demanding illiquidity premium.
Marshall advocates for actively managing private portfolios through secondary sales to maintain portfolio construction and manage risk, emphasizing the importance of careful selection of secondary markets and the value of cash as a buffer to bridge cash flows and capitalize on dislocation opportunities.
Deep dives
Reevaluating Investment Strategies in a Changing Economic Landscape
Amid concerns of potential inflation, Anna Marshall, CIO of the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, emphasizes the need to reassess investment strategies and unlearn the investing rules of the past decade. She highlights the importance of considering the era of normalized economy with inflation and higher interest rates and suggests focusing on cash flow, adjusting valuations, and demanding illiquidity premium. Marshall discusses the challenges of integrating ESG factors into investment decision-making and the need for companies to adapt to changing ESG metrics and reporting requirements. She also expresses concerns about the need to navigate FX and geopolitical risks, and emphasizes the significance of understanding inflation accounting and effective risk management in the coming years.
Active Portfolio Management and Secondary Sales in Frothy Markets
Marshall advocates for actively managing private portfolios, especially during frothy markets, through secondary sales to maintain portfolio construction and manage risk. She emphasizes the importance of carefully selecting secondary markets and constructing portfolios that appeal to buyers. Marshall also explains the various scenarios that may trigger secondary sales, such as strategy changes or risk management, and the lead time required to execute such sales. Additionally, she discusses the role of liquidity management and the value of cash as a buffer to bridge cash flows and capitalize on dislocation opportunities.
Assessing Investing Opportunities in China and Emerging Markets
Marshall provides insights into the evolving landscape of investing in China, highlighting the cyclical bounce as the country reopens and the persistent tensions with the US. She mentions a potential shift towards sponsorship of specific sectors and challenges in harnessing investment opportunities due to geopolitical and FX risks. Marshall also shares her thoughts on emerging markets outside of China, expressing skepticism about certain markets' scalability, geopolitical concerns, and corruption. She touches upon considering investments based on relative growth and relative valuations.
Navigating the Complexities of ESG Investing
Marshall addresses the complex landscape of ESG investing, acknowledging the evolving perceptions of ESG from greenwashing to emerging criticisms. She highlights the challenge of measuring and reporting ESG metrics accurately and transparently, particularly in terms of GHG emissions. Marshall discusses the different approaches to ESG investing, weighing the significance of investing in companies that are already ESG-focused versus those that are actively changing and improving their ESG practices. She underscores the importance of incentives and lower cost of capital as a means to drive positive change in ESG performance.
Ana Marshall is the CIO for The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, where she oversees a $13 billion pool of capital. Ana joined Hewlett eighteen years ago after spending the same amount of time as a direct investor. She was a past guest in 2019 describing her approach, and that conversation is replayed in the feed. We caught up to discuss what is on Ana's mind going into the new year. We cover inflation, private equity secondaries, liquidity management, China, emerging markets, and ESG. We close discussing where Ana is looking around corners, what's filling her basket of worries, and her plan for the next five years. Access Stream by AlphaSense Free Trial For full show notes, visit the episode webpage here. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at @tseides or LinkedIn Subscribe to the mailing list Access Transcript with Premium Membership
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