In this Conflicted Conversation, Thomas speaks with Conservative MP Tom Tugendhat about the Muslim Brotherhood.

What happens when a Western democracy encounters an ideological movement it no longer has the language — or the institutions — to understand?

The former Security Minister and long-time observer of the Middle East explains what the Brotherhood is, how it operates, and why the British state is struggling to deal with it.

In this episode, Thomas questions Tom about…

Tom’s time in Egypt during the Arab Spring
His conversations with Brotherhood members
The UK government’s secretive 2014 review of the Brotherhood a nd why Parliament challenged it
The institutional blind spots inside Whitehall and MI5
How Brotherhood-linked networks operate in Britain today
Why talking openly about the Brotherhood is so politically and legally fraught
Strategies for the UK government to tackle the influence of the Muslim Brotherhood

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