Chris Bowen on landmark climate legislation, negotiating with the Greens and what’s yet to come

After a week of debate and negotiation, the government has managed to pass its climate legislation. Guardian Australia’s political editor, Katharine Murphy, speaks to the federal minister for climate change and energy, Chris Bowen, about the future changes needed to combat climate change and how the Coalition’s political strategy shows they have learnt no lessons from their election defeat How to listen to podcasts: everything you need to know