Pluribus: The Official Podcast S1E1: We Is Us
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Nov 7, 2025 
Vince Gilligan, the brilliant mind behind 'Breaking Bad', shares insights into the origins of Pluribus and its transition from a male to female lead for Rhea Seehorn's character, Carol. Rhea dives into her character development, discussing the humor and complexity of Carol, as well as behind-the-scenes stories, like the unique escalator scene. The duo explores the show's blend of horror and dark humor, and the meticulous planning behind staging crowd scenes and authentic lab environments, giving listeners a peek into the creative process of this new series.
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Happiness Kills Dramatic Tension
- Vince Gilligan realized pure wish-fulfillment has no drama because happiness lacks inherent conflict.
- That insight forced the show to introduce complications to keep the story compelling.
Writing For Rhea And Returning Home
- Vince wanted to write for Rhea Seehorn after Better Call Saul and chose to make the protagonist female.
- He returned to Albuquerque to work with longtime crew and to avoid pretending the city was somewhere else.
Keep Trusted Crew And Embrace Location
- If your production has a great crew, keep them: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
- Shooting in the real city avoids spending energy trying to hide recognizable landmarks.