The Pat Kenny Show

A Garden from Ireland for the White House

Nov 12, 2025
In this conversation with Jim McGovern, an award-winning garden designer and horticulturist, he shares his vision for an Irish walled garden at the White House. Inspired by Ireland's economic struggles, Jim proposes this garden as a symbol of the enduring friendship between Ireland and the US. He discusses its thoughtful design featuring a circular layout with a reflecting pond and pavilion. Jim also highlights the historical ties between the White House and Ireland's architectural heritage, making a compelling case for an iconic gift during the Biden administration.
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ANECDOTE

Genesis During The Celtic Tiger Aftermath

  • Jim McGovern conceived the Irish garden idea after the Celtic Tiger collapse and feeling impotent as a gardener abroad.
  • He imagined offering a symbolic Irish gift to the White House beyond the annual bowl of shamrock to celebrate ties between the countries.
INSIGHT

Design Mirrors White House Geometry

  • McGovern designed a circular, walled Irish garden with an oval reflecting pond and pavilion echoing the White House's oval themes.
  • The layout blends Irish walled-garden tradition with spaces for the presidential family and public announcements.
ANECDOTE

High-Level Push And Fundraising

  • McGovern pursued the project through ambassadors, senators, and even met a former White House manager from Trump's team by Zoom.
  • He and supporters raised millions and secured business backing, but political realities ultimately stalled construction.
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