

The Evil That Stuns Heaven
12 snips Oct 2, 2025
The discussion dives into the nature of human evil and its consequences. A thought experiment contrasts mass murder without God to emphasize the gravity of sin. The Bible's take on sin highlights dishonoring God rather than just harming others. Drawing on Jeremiah, the talk explores the horror of forsaking God for trivial pursuits. Ultimately, it underscores the deep need for a Savior, positioning Jesus as the answer to humanity's profound trespass against the divine.
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God's Size Shapes Moral Sense
- John Piper reframes the problem: where God is small and man is big, the cross and hell look absurd.
- He argues our moral frame must include God's infinite worth to make sense of justice and the cross.
Evil Is Demeaning God, Not Just Harm
- Piper says Lisa's moral category omits offenses against God's honor and thus cannot justify infinite punishment.
- He claims evil must be understood as demeaning God, not merely harming humans.
The Hitler Thought Experiment
- Piper offers a thought experiment: imagine a world without God where one kills billions.
- He shows that without God moral categories and infinite desert collapse into unjustifiability.