Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast Inside COP: Ed Miliband on Multilateralism, Leadership and the UK’s Climate Dilemma
Nov 9, 2025
Ed Miliband, a senior UK politician and former Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change, delves into the UK's stance on multilateral climate efforts, including the Tropical Forests Forever Facility. He addresses the questions surrounding the UK’s lack of investment in this critical initiative and the public's support for climate action, countering narratives of backlash. The conversation also highlights the importance of international collaboration, the need for clear communication on climate goals, and the urgency of translating commitments into action as COP30 begins.
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Deforestation Is A Direct National-Interest Issue
- Stopping deforestation is essential to prevent runaway global warming and is in the UK's national interest.
- Ed Miliband argues climate action protects future generations and delivers jobs and energy security today.
UK Helped Design But Delayed Big TFFF Pledge
- The UK helped design the Tropical Forests Forever Facility and funded its administration but held back a larger investment due to an upcoming fiscal event.
- Miliband says timing and a difficult fiscal window explain why the UK did not announce a bigger pledge now.
Use Domestic Clean Energy To Cut Bills
- Invest in homegrown clean energy to reduce exposure to volatile global fossil-fuel prices and lower bills.
- Miliband recommends accelerating domestic renewables to deliver faster consumer benefits and energy security.