

On Myth as a Vehicle for Truth A Dialogues Conversation with Holly Ordway & Louis Markos (Continued)
Sep 20, 2025
Holly Ordway, an expert on literature and Christianity, and Louis Markos, a professor specializing in Christian apologetics, engage in a vibrant discussion about the friendship of C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien. They delve into the balance of their disagreements and mutual respect while exploring themes of good versus evil in their works. The conversation touches on the importance of imagination, Tolkien's critique of technology, and the role of generosity in writing. Their insights highlight the enduring legacy of these literary giants and the inspiration they provide for contemporary writers.
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Evil As Hollow Illusion
- Tolkien presents evil as hollow spectacle rather than substantive power, exemplified by Sauron and Saruman's disintegration.
- Goodness is depicted as quiet, substantial, and ultimately victorious through humility and mercy.
Hobbits As Humble Saviors
- Tolkien elevates humility by making weak hobbits the true protagonists who save Middle-earth.
- Their rescue depends on mercy and providence, not martial power or worldly wisdom.
Failure Enables Eucatastrophe
- Frodo's failure and Gollum's intervention create a eucatastrophic reversal that mirrors Christian surprise at Easter.
- Evil fails because it cannot comprehend true humility and self-denial.