Jake and Bob discuss the difference between false maturity and maturing into our true selves through yoking ourselves to Christ. They emphasize the importance of healing to help us love well, finding ourselves through sacrifice and maturity. The analogy of Jesus's yoke is explored as a path to maturity. Each host shares their personal journey to maturity. The podcast explores the interconnectedness of security and maturity, the role of self-reliance in virtue development, and the significance of trust and surrendering to Christ for growth.
Maturity grows out of security and is rooted in grace and communion, emphasizing the importance of a strong foundation of security before seeking maturity.
Maturity involves a transformation process that requires letting go of self-reliance and relying on God's love and guidance, embracing vulnerability and humility.
Deep dives
The Journey of Restoration: Security, Maturity, Purity
In this podcast episode, Jake Kim and Bob Schuetz discuss the concepts of security, maturity, and purity. They emphasize that maturity grows organically out of security and is rooted in grace and communion. They highlight the importance of a strong foundation of security before seeking maturity. They also touch on the idea that God is fiercely committed to helping individuals become who He intended them to be, and that maturity involves a transformation process. They discuss the need to let go of self-reliance and rely on God's love and guidance in order to experience true maturity. They also address the demands of love and how they can sometimes be difficult to accept in a culture that values self-centeredness. They conclude by connecting healing to the journey of maturity, highlighting the importance of addressing wounds and allowing God to bring transformation.
The Analogy of the Yoke and the Dance
Jake and Bob explore the analogies of the yoke and the dance to illustrate the process of maturity. They explain that a yoke always involves two animals working together, with a mature animal guiding and teaching an immature one. They discuss how trust and surrender are essential in this process, as the immature animal must let go of its own instincts and follow the lead of the mature one. They also compare this process to dancing, where one partner leads and the other follows, emphasizing the importance of trust and a graceful, harmonious movement. They highlight the need for vulnerability and humility in the journey of maturity and the importance of recognizing one's own limitations and need for help.
Personal Examples of Maturity and Growth
Jake shares his personal journey of overcoming sexual addiction and how it relates to the concepts of security, maturity, and purity. He highlights the role of healing, trust, and surrender in the transformation process. Bob shares his experience of learning to let go of self-reliance and embracing a childlike dependence on God. He explains how trusting God in moments of testing and leaning on his grace brought about true freedom and growth. Both examples demonstrate the importance of recognizing and addressing wounds, as well as embracing vulnerability and humility in the journey towards maturity.
The Freedom of Maturity and the Invitation to Trust
In their final discussion, Jake and Bob emphasize that maturity involves allowing Jesus' life to be lived in and through us by surrendering to the Holy Spirit. They explain that true maturity is not about self-reliance or control, but about healthy self-mastery and freedom. They encourage embracing the freedom found in obeying God, caring for others, and freely saying yes or no. They highlight that Jesus is the ultimate example of maturity and freedom, demonstrating how to live a fully human life rooted in trust and dependence on the Father.
Jake and Bob continue their series on Security, Maturity and Purity by looking at the difference between false maturity vs maturing into our true selves through yoking ourselves to Christ.
Guiding Quote:
The real Son of God is at your side. He is beginning to turn you into the same kind of thing as Himself. He is beginning, so to speak, to "inject" His kind of life and thought into you; beginning to turn the tin soldier into a live man. The part of you that does not like it is the part that is still tin. - CS Lewis, Mere Christianity
Key Points:
Why Maturity comes after Security in the order of healing
The true purpose of healing is to help us love well, rather than to make life easier
We find ourselves when we make a gift of ourselves, and this sacrifice requires maturity
False maturity can come from woundedness. We want to mature past the false self into our true selves.
Jake breaks open the analogy of Jesus’s yoke which helps us understand submission to Christ as a path to maturity
Jake and Bob each share from their stories about their personal journeys to maturity
Practical Application:
If you haven’t listened to Part 1 on Security, go back and begin with that as the foundational episode of the series.
Consider the analogy of the yoke. How might your frustrations in the Christian life or healing journey point toward an area of your life in need of maturity?
Pray for Godly mentors (or ask someone you know for wisdom and guidance) who can help you mature in areas of false maturity.
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