Why, oh why would you choose to go on vacation with your family when every other time it's been a train wreck? Rich, one of Paul’s support group friends (and previous guest), wanted to talk through his trouble accepting that his family won't change, the issues he’s been having from it, and he and Paul decided to record the conversation. They discuss validation seeking, unhealthy dating patterns, and how it all circles back to his family. Oh and the date he went on that redefines WTF.

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