
The Wes Cecil Podcast The Transvaluation of All Values: Play not Work - Ep. 4
Jun 18, 2025
Explore the battle between play and work in our lives as Wes challenges the notion of 'I have to' versus 'I will.' He argues that much of what we deem labor should instead be seen as play, transforming our experiences. Delve into the concept of the slave mentality in workplaces, illustrated through the Walmart example, and consider practical strategies to reclaim joy in our work. Witness how reframing tasks can lead to creativity, inspired by figures like Miles Davis and Picasso, and learn to approach job hunting as a mutual interview.
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Owning The Language Of Choice
- Saying "I have to" hands power to external forces and hides personal choice.
- Wes Cecil urges replacing "I have to" with owning desires to restore agency.
The Vertically Integrated Slave Mindset
- The "slave mentality" creates a chain of fear and compulsion across hierarchies.
- Cecil shows how everyone up and down the chain repeats "I have to," trapping both workers and managers.
Make Work Play Or Move On
- If work doesn't feel like play at some level, consider changing it.
- Ask what you enjoy, negotiate changes, or leave for something that fits your play.




